MARCELO MUÑOZ: REINFORCING THE DIALOGUE BETWEEN CHINA AND SPAIN

Por Wu Sha, Yu Ying

Publicado el 21/10/2024

Madrid is one of its most cosmopolitan cities in Spain, combining the charm of historical architecture and the energy of a modern metropolis. People’s Daily Online UK interviewed Marcelo Muñoz here, who has worked with China for over 40 years to build closer relations between China and Spain. Muñoz shared, “I’m considered half-Chinese since it’s the country I know and have worked with most after Spain”. In 2012, Muñoz founded Cátedra China, an organization dedicated to promoting exchanges between China and Spain, with hopes of increasing collaborative opportunities between the two nations. 

Muñoz reflected on his early days in China, saying, “When I arrived in China in 1978, Deng Xiaoping’s Opening Up policy just started. Through doing business in China, I have been a direct witness of the transformation that China has undergone over the years. In my opinion and according to many political analysts around the world, this is the biggest transformation in history. In 1978, China ranked as the 120th most powerful country in the world; today, it stands as the second.” Muñoz praised that “China has become a global leader in technology and science, publishing more scientific innovations than any other country. It has also emerged as the world’s greatest commercial power”. 

Over the last 46 years, Muñoz has written many books and articles about China, transmitting his lived experiences in China to people in the West. “It has been an incredible experience to explore such a big country,” Muñoz said. He admires China’s long-term vision, noting, «China has a system that works for future generations and endures over time. For example, the Great Wall took many centuries to build and the Grand Canal was built in the eighth century, which continues to be one of the most important canals for people in China today.»

In his books, Muñoz often made the point that the West lacks an understanding of China, one of the oldest civilisations in the world. Currently, he is preparing for his fifth book, which will discuss how China can offer an alternative to our disorientated world. “The world currently is not governed by a leader. The West wants to govern, particularly the United States and the European Union, which are part of the NATO alliance. China has offered a new approach of peace through dialogue instead of war, which is very important”. For Muñoz, this alternative is rooted in Confucian philosophy. “The Chinese do not want conflicts or wars; they want to make partnerships and treatises with other countries through dialogue”. 

Muñoz was convinced that “the 21st century is China’s century. The Chinese policy presents an alternative and therefore we need China to participate in global governance.” In a precarious world of geopolitical conflicts, Muñoz emphasised that “it is very important to have peace, especially for young people. For peace to thrive, China must play an active role in global governance.” Muñoz called for continual cooperation between China and the West to build a more peaceful world. 

Muñoz considered that creating real dialogue between China and Spain requires an effective channel. Therefore, he created the Cátedra China, a multidisciplinary think tank.  “The Cátedra China is now the most important platform for dialogue between China and Spain,” Muñoz explained. «It facilitates public debates among scholars and experts on China and supports trips for intellectuals and politicians to China, helping them gain a deeper understanding of the country. We also host delegations from Chinese companies and governments to improve their knowledge of Spain and the West.” 

Quoting Confucius, Muñoz emphasised that “if you want to cross the river, you need to do it stone by stone. This is the purpose of Cátedra China. If we can let scholars and politicians open their eyes and see the reality of China, dialogue between China and the West will be reinforced and we can understand each other better”.